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Opps I did It Again, Unusual Parts markings

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    Posted: Apr 03 2023 at 9:26am
Hi Hi!
Long time member Asa Overall shared a recent acquisition that has a double stamped hammer


http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/uploads/5600/OddHIHI_Asa.jpg
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Double stamped Underwood barrel, courtesy of PloughMud over on CMP forums.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Rebel92 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep 27 2022 at 9:06pm
I thought they looked identical, do we know the full serial number on Scott’s and Justin’s (dirtythirty)?
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Originally posted by Dirty30Carbine Dirty30Carbine wrote:

this is on a S.G. picked up today



http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/uploads/5600/Dirty30carbine_roll_die1_2022-09-27_17-18-27.jpg
Crazy, but this may be the same barrel or the roll die error was repetitive in the overlay?

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Yes there is definitely a remnant of the N on the left side of the blade
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Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

So the bigger question is if anyone has a SN brazed sight that is not double stamped. 

Yes, I do. 

On second thought maybe I don't, the marking is very hard to see with the plain eye, but in this picture, it looks like there might very well be the remnants of the second SN.



Edited by W5USMC - Sep 05 2022 at 9:18pm
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Good eye, but SN is not always SN

Other than early parts, the parts were marked Sub-Prime except for Sta Pro
The milled front sight was Sta Pro Subcontracted by Niedner. Due to Saginaw already using the "S" we see for the most part marked S first rather than last.

The stamped and brazed was Super Metal MFG for NPM, also marked SN
The double stamp may be the norm as they would not have to orientate the sight block to be machined for the blade. See CCNL 383-11

On page one of this thread we have this. It appears that the component was stamped before forming and brazing.

So the bigger question is if anyone has a SN brazed sight that is not double stamped.
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Double stamped SN on NPM front sight.

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The S.G. Is present with the rest GI the stamp, nothing else stamped odd in that area. The only other marked I recall in the barrel in the P stamp further down and it is off center as well
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Nice! Is the S.G. present at the end of SAGINAW
any traces of markings on the bottom of the barrel?
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this is on a S.G. picked up today
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SDP sears are common and have been observed no hole as well as with the hole. The ones with the hole usually obscure the part marking. It seems at some point they moved the P to prevent this. Has anyone observed the marking this way?

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Thanks Jim, I had reports but no photos
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In Dan Pinto's original article on unusual parts markings he asked "has anyone seen a SG recoil plate marked other than upright orientation?"  I located these two in my parts bin.  First same as previously reported in the article and another 180 degrees out.  No serial number data I'm afraid.  They were both bought many years ago as spare parts.  



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Wayne,
I think so too. Crude, prolly hand stamped.

Thx Again Wacko

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Looks like an H.I. over stamp to me.
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Here is a Shielded H over stamped with either P.I. or H.I. that came off a Inland 5,219,??? mil that the guy put a Repro Flip on. He was here because I had the tools and said he was going to keep the sight.
Barrel was Inland 5-44 with round bolt and Type II band marked //.
I tried  Cry to talk him out of it because it, IMO was a Original Carbine.
Me having a crisp 5,219,465 just like it about ~350 numbers away, best I can recall. My sight is HI with No periods between letters.



Guesses ?  
Is it Over Stamped P.I. or H.I. over the shielded H ?

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Not aftermarket, the W was just over stamped making it look like a VW.
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I have an opp slide with the VW shown. Is it aftermarket?
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Looks like the weak "JM" stamp (left) was sometimes re-stamped (right).


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