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    Posted: Dec 08 2022 at 2:11pm
Exacrly what are you talking about?! Maybe you didn't mean to put my username in there, but new members ought to know this stuff I posted. . 
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Originally posted by tenOCEE tenOCEE wrote:




If your problem with him is over there, then why are you addressing your issues with him here. That is a rhetorical question.


It  is time to drop it!




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Originally posted by Why Carbines? Why Carbines? wrote:

This SP has been discussed so many times on another forum(s), including multiple comments from experienced collectors, but still he comes back for more time after time and now over here. One would think that the information just isn't sinking in or he just likes seeing his carbine talked about online...I don't know.
Also, everyone, including staff, needs to realize that there's LOT of sources for info on the M1 carbine out there and members need to expand their horizons beyond just this place. I mean I actually saw a comment from a mod that said, well some guys do know how to search...OMG! If an idiot like me can find stuff about the vast majority of things (beyond the m1 carbine) I search for on the net then I firmly believe most peeps here can too.

And he posted here back in August, and he is welcome to post here even now,

Nothing constructive in your post. 
Also not in line with the clubs policy.

Lets stop the dog pile.


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I was probanly the most vocal person supporting Coulee's SP as MOST PROBABLY (not absolutely) original over on Gunboards. I explained that a person can't take that as confirmation that it's original until it's in an experienced someone's hand, and even then there's no actual proof. It's very nice and we all agreed that it is. It APPEARS original. 

He should be calling it "probably" 100% original instead of dropping the "probably" from the description. Reason being is, all someone has to say is, "Prove it. Where's the proof?" We don't have any proof for almost any of these originals. 

Someone who doesn't know much on another board followed milpril's invented person attack and described a purist as someone who chases down every last part to correct their gun as it's suppose to be originally. Then followed it up saying someone else was a loud mouthed know it all. Um, a purist probably despises the people who are correcting these things more than anyone they know. We will always have to tolerate these ridiculous assertions from people who don't know what they're talking about, I guess. 

Originally posted by Bluemalinois Bluemalinois wrote:

I will say as a newbie here and a new collector that I have received nothing but help from anyone on here. Don't confuse honesty with being a stuck up collector.  These guys know their stuff and where I come for real truthful information on anything.  Everyone here is as excited to see an 100% original just as much as one that has been modified and beat to hell.  Each individual carbine part has story.

Originals were never my main motivation. Never. They're great when they turn up but I enjoy lots of Carbs and parts.
We always help, because we love this stuff. Sometimes there's less help when a person shows no ability to offer anything positive back or when they don't even attempt to endear themselves with those they seek help from. It comes off like they don't care about the person and just want what they want. Go find it elsewhere then.

There are a handful of people with grudges in the Carbine circle who have a cycle like a monthly cycle, except on a few month's time period, that have personal grievances from being exposed. They try to pass the blame but you should be aware that they are out here and most likely have been caught doing something offensive to the hobby. Too much drinking seems part of their motivation. 


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This SP has been discussed so many times on another forum(s), including multiple comments from experienced collectors, but still he comes back for more time after time and now over here. One would think that the information just isn't sinking in or he just likes seeing his carbine talked about online...I don't know.
Also, everyone, including staff, needs to realize that there's LOT of sources for info on the M1 carbine out there and members need to expand their horizons beyond just this place. I mean I actually saw a comment from a mod that said, well some guys do know how to search...OMG! If an idiot like me can find stuff about the vast majority of things (beyond the m1 carbine) I search for on the net then I firmly believe most peeps here can too.
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Gentlemen,lets keep it civil.

Originally posted by Big Coulee Big Coulee wrote:

Yes, I have what appears to be a !00%, unmolested Standard Products M1 carbine that I would like to post some photos of here on this forum.   I'd look forward to reading what some of you might comment on my M1, good, bad or indifferent. I don't suppose I'd receive very many good comments.   


Big Coulee, You can email me your pictures and I will install them in your post.

Please do not make assumption about comments on your carbine on this forum. You may be surprised what guys can tell you about your carbine.
I think the post above mine sums it up very well.

Originally posted by Bluemalinois Bluemalinois wrote:

I will say as a newbie here and a new collector that I have received nothing but help from anyone on here. Don't confuse honesty with being a stuck up collector.  These guys know their stuff and where I come for real truthful information on anything.  Everyone here is as excited to see an 100% original just as much as one that has been modified and beat to hell.  Each individual carbine part has story.


We welcome all carbines and variations, including commercial carbines, which many on other forums may look down on, we do not do that here.
We are collectors, shooters, researchers, enthusiasts, and wards of pieces of history for a period of time.

Looking forward to pictures!

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I will say as a newbie here and a new collector that I have received nothing but help from anyone on here. Don't confuse honesty with being a stuck up collector.  These guys know their stuff and where I come for real truthful information on anything.  Everyone here is as excited to see an 100% original just as much as one that has been modified and beat to hell.  Each individual carbine part has story.
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Originally posted by Why Carbines? Why Carbines? wrote:

The pictures are over on Gunboards forum if anyone wants to see them.

Can you post the link?
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Coulee in light of some recent info, let me reword the above to soften it. I cant edit it. 

But, we here and those others like myself who helped you ID what you had on Gunboards are the people you are labeling. 

Milpril has led you astray about who we are. The guy is holding a grudge because of an M1A1 deal we exposed him on. He can't tolerate people pointing this out and hates Carbine people for our keeping him from selling a replacement parts folding stock at a WW2 stock price as he was saying it's just as good as the originals. It's  not. That happened on the CMP forum about 8 years ago. Ever since, he hates us. 

The people he describes don't hardly even exist.
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Originally posted by Big Coulee Big Coulee wrote:

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Thanks for reading my post and commenting on it. I made no "derogatory" statement concerning people or their carbines.  I only pointed out that folks who are serious collectors tend to have very little regard and look down on those of us who like to accumulate and shoot our more "run of the mill" M1 carbines.
Yes, I have what appears to be a !00%, unmolested Standard Products M1 carbine that I would like to post some photos of here on this forum.   I'd look forward to reading what some of you might comment on my M1, good, bad or indifferent. I don't suppose I'd receive very many good comments.   

Totally false and denigrating to almost every serious Carbine collector! You just negatively labeled everyone who has helped you. You only know what "folks who are serious collectors" have told you. I was there from the beginning of your inquiries about your Carbine. You can ask milpril what you need to know as far as I'm concerned. 
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Thanks for reading my post and commenting on it. I made no "derogatory" statement concerning people or their carbines.   I only pointed out that folks who are serious collectors tend to have very little regard and look down on those of us who like to accumulate and shoot our more "run of the mill" M1 carbines.
Yes, I have what appears to be a !00%, unmolested Standard Products M1 carbine that I would like to post some photos of here on this forum.   I'd look forward to reading what some of you might comment on my M1, good, bad or indifferent. I don't suppose I'd receive very many good comments.   
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Originally posted by Matt_X Matt_X wrote:

Post some photos up as you go along. People here will help you.   I think a lot of us have done or redone our datasheets after posting phots and asking questions!

We always help. 
People who want to help might want to go take a look at the support that Big Coulee just gave the main person who runs all Carbine people down over on another forum.
On every Carbine thread over there Coulee posts about his original unmessed with Carbine. And now makes a derogatory comment about all Carbine people who like original unmessed with Carbines?
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720 DPI wide is the maximum display on this forum. If it is wider the software downsizes what you see, so basically using excess space and bandwidth. Not a big deal as long as it is under the file size requirements in bytes.
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Originally posted by Big Coulee Big Coulee wrote:

 try to get as much resolution as possible with the camera.

If its a fairly recent camara, the resolution may be much higher than can posted online.
If you want to have a high resolution versoin for your own use and then shrink it to upload that's fine.  But if  the shrinking step is difficult, then a photo that is between 600 (small object) and maybe 1200 dpi in width should upload to the website. 
(Mods can correct me if I've stated something not so.)

Originally posted by Big Coulee Big Coulee wrote:

   I don't care to strip my M1 totally down to determine the type of all small parts as shown in the video.    Would such a strip down and limited data information be allowed on the data sheet?   
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Post some photos up as you go along. People here will help you.   I think a lot of us have done or redone our datasheets after posting phots and asking questions!

Looking at Featured Carbines with data sheets and photos also helped me. 

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Big Coulee, yes just fill the data sheet out as much as you can.
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Wayne -----   Thanks for all the above tips on picture taking.   My camera is a very simple type and does not have many of the features mentioned in the tips. I believe the best I'll be able to do is take my pics in a light that doesn't produce shadows and try to get as much resolution as possible with the camera.

I've also watched the video on the various M1 carbine parts to assist in filling out the Data Sheet.   I don't care to strip my M1 totally down to determine the type of all small parts as shown in the video.   I want only to field strip the carbine and photo the major parts with their part numbers and the maker's code letters.   Would such a strip down and limited data information be allowed on the data sheet?   
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I'd like to post new pictures of my Std. Prod. carbine here on this forum. How would I be able to do that??
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Originally posted by Big Coulee Big Coulee wrote:


Wayne -----   I'll attempt to complete the Data Sheet as much as I'm able but there are so many items on the sheet that I have very little knowledge about. Will all these items have to be answered before I can post the photos of my M1 Carbine.   I'm not a carbine collector just an accumulator.
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The pictures are over on Gunboards forum if anyone wants to see them.
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