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    Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 5:48pm
Hello everyone,

I picked this up from my Gunsmith.  He didn't have a need for it and sold it to me for $65.

I would like to know if it is real or a reproduction.  Your brutally honest opinion is respectfully requested.

All the IBM Receivers I have seen have had the “BE-B” marking, read from top to bottom from the REAR View.  However, this one has a marking of “B-BE” (with a sideways number 1 as the dash) and is read from Bottom to Top from the Front View.  (I used Flower packed into the lettering to make it more visable)

I have gone through past post on strange markings and only found 1 reference to an IBM B-BE marking on trigger guards.  In the same post there was a mention of different types of markings for the "-" in between the letters.

Could someone please tell me if I just wasted $65 and as my departed father use to say “Bought Something I Can’t Eat” (Big Smile)

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Da1Chief


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Correction  ----  Instead of "B-BE" it is "B-EB"

Sorry for the error my fingers got carried away.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote W5USMC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 6:22pm
No, you did not waste your $65.  Both markings are legit.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Smokpole Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 6:41pm
Yup! There were a couple of variations of the BE-B/B-EB markings.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote welbytwo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 16 2022 at 11:04pm
to me the BE-B in big letters with no bed in between tend to be earlier guns---I have to admit it looks like a sideways one-never thought of it in those terms--was a bed to me
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Smokpole Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 17 2022 at 3:45pm
Marcus, that is the third one that I've seen where the dash appears to be a 1. It is unusual, but they are out there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote New2brass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 17 2022 at 7:15pm
CCNL 329-7 stated BE-B, B-EB with some data sheets the dash looking like an I.
If you look real close you will see it is neither a 1 or an I
There are also some that were electro penciled.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Why Carbines? Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 17 2022 at 7:49pm
There was an unfounded rumor going around years ago that one size and/or style of font went to Standard Products and another style stayed with IBM. Amazing how stuff like that gets started.
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Gentlemen I wish to thank you all. I have/had never seen one marked like that and I could not find it anywhere I looked.

I can’t thank you enough. I will post up a complete set of pics on Thursday.

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