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adam lee ![]() Recruit ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 05 2022 Location: Alexandria, VA Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Hello, Carbine Collectors and M1 Carbine fans in general. My name is Adam, and I just traded for a NIB condition Kahr/Auto Ordnance carbine. Born date for the rifle is 2014 (checked with Kahr Arms online) and looks like it had maybe a box of ammo run through it is all.
Typical Kahr/Auto Ordnance in that it looks great but needs those rough internals smoothed out. As a fan and user of Rossi 92 lever rifles, I am used to the DIY/fix-it yerself mentality and it's also something I like to do as a hobby. Looking forward to chatting and learning more about the commercial as well as the USGI carbines on this site. Thanks for your time! Adam Lee ![]() |
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Welcome to the forum.
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floydthecat ![]() Hard Corps ![]() Joined: Oct 13 2016 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1790 |
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Welcome to the forum. Sounds like you might be aware of some bad press concerning AO carbines. Most of us do appreciate a challenge. Be sure to click on the banner above and go to the web pages where you can select Commercial Carbines then Companies and Carbines to enjoy some good reading.
Good luck!
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adam lee ![]() Recruit ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 05 2022 Location: Alexandria, VA Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Thanks for the welcome, Floyd!
Yes, the Carbine-specific web pages are a godsend. I've been reading every one of them more recently, as I was prepping for my recent gun swap trade that netted me this 2014 Kahr/Auto Ordnance carbine. From a practical standpoint, I stripped the gun down to a pile of parts and cleaned it all. Hand fit the individual parts to see where the rough edges need honing/polishing/Dremel work. Specifically, places where the bolt body rides into the receiver - some obvious stuff to smooth out and that's going to happen. Beyond that, I did the recommended piston nut check - and yes, it was super loose! Snugged it back down with a non-piston nut wrench, so at some point I will shop around for one. AO upper handguard is 1/16" too wide on the one side, as folks have noted. Gotta love that Altamont gun stock company for offering a cheaper mill for Kahr to cut costs! But I'm guessing that's just Kahr's business decision to offer guns at a competitive price point. And of course, the sling/oiler cutout isn't finished completely, again the Altamont cost-cutting move. Nose of the stock doesn't have the proper finished rounded cut either. All of these things I can either correct myself, or work an old Marlin M2 stock/handguard to fit. Fun and games! Take care. Adam
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Donnie ![]() On Point ![]() ![]() Joined: May 31 2018 Location: Newburgh, IN Status: Offline Points: 335 |
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Adam, welcome to the party. Your report sounds like you are off to a good start prepping your commercial carbine. Shoot it and give us a range report. I hope you enjoy your newish carbine.
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DonFlynn ![]() Grunt ![]() Joined: Jan 27 2019 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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Good luck with it (I had one that was a POS)
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adam lee ![]() Recruit ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 05 2022 Location: Alexandria, VA Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Hey guys,
Here are some pics of an old NOS M2 stock which I swapped on my 2014 AO carbine. The handguard is a very well-worn Inland which fits but sure is fugly. I got this M2 unissued stock from J&G sales recently. It is dry as a bone. Need linseed oil to get it back to health, otherwise I'm happy with the swap. This M2 is one of the completely unmarked jobs, birch wood. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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DonFlynn ![]() Grunt ![]() Joined: Jan 27 2019 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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Nice job
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adam lee ![]() Recruit ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 05 2022 Location: Alexandria, VA Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Hello yall -
I am back with a field report update. I took my 2014 Kahr/Auto Ordnance Carbine out for a spin with a couple other toys recently, at my local WMA - Myrtle Grove in Charles County, MD. The carbine shot well - I only popped less than 50 rounds that day - except for two key problems. One was magazines. All I had were 4 brand new Korean KCI 15-round mags, and they were hit and miss. That was purely a mag spring/feeding issue, it seemed like. Second issue was my flipping M2 stock and handguard swap - I shouldn't have done that and instead should have just left the stock original to the carbine. As you all probably know, A/O stocks and receivers are slightly off on dimensions from OG carbines. Well, that little difference made a difference - eventually, I will fine tune the old M2 stock and handguard to work. However, with that setup, every 4 rounds or so the dang handguard would pop off and I'd have to shoot without for a few rounds. Purely a dimensional difference with the barrel band making contact with the handguard. My bad. I will just use the Auto Ordnance stock next week. I think I can see where these KCI new Korean 15-rounders vary between mags. Bummer, but not surprised. I just need to invest in a variety of surplus and new mags and do some work on springs and tweaking the feed lips. Sorry no pics, but I wanted to do the update. I am just glad the dang thing cycles and shoots OK - barring the mags and handguard issues! My other fun guns that came along for the ride were my handmade Anderson-lower M4 clone, and my Rossi 92 lever 357. I have great fun with those toys. I hand load 38/357 and recently got a 556/223 die set for that too. OK there you go - take care all! Adam Lee
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DonFlynn ![]() Grunt ![]() Joined: Jan 27 2019 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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I would change the barrel band to something other than the A/O one. IIRR those are cheaply made
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adam lee ![]() Recruit ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 05 2022 Location: Alexandria, VA Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Yes, an updated band is on my list of things to do. In fact, I was going to order a late style barrel band with bayonet lug to "match" the potbelly M2 stock I picked up from J&G.
Will return as I can with follow-ups! Adam Lee
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GotSnlB28 ![]() Hard Corps ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 01 2016 Location: WI Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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Numrich gun parts corp has NOS USGI type 3 bands for $20. I'd tacked one on to an order a few months back and it's indeed USGI with a dark parkerized finish (not blued), as I recall it was JM marked. |
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Don.Collier ![]() Recruit ![]() Joined: Apr 01 2022 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Adam, As a new AOM-150 owner I appreciate your detailed updates, especially on the stock fitment. I’m not a huge fan of the paratrooper stock and would like to replace with… something. Keep the updates coming, if/when possible. Thanks!
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