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Topic: New Member From Japan and Question
Posted By: fujita
Subject: New Member From Japan and Question
Date Posted: Sep 26 2021 at 8:38pm
Hello all! I am YUKI new here hence me posting this. 

I have a carbine made by IBM.

So my question is, My carbine has a special engraving on it.
It does not have "CORP" stamped on it.
I have heard on this forum that the first 200 were hand stamped, but my serial number is the 700th.
so I would like to hear what members think.

I look forward to participating in the forum.

Regards,
YUKI



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Posted By: New2brass
Date Posted: Sep 26 2021 at 9:08pm
Yuki, welcome to the forums.

first few thousand were hand stamped. Look at your few first numbers in the serial, they are machine stamped.
can you post some pictures of the front ring markings?

7-43 barrel is sweet! I have only seen a handful.


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Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Sep 26 2021 at 10:30pm
Thanks for the reply.


I see. You're right.the first four numbers are machine engraved.

Is this the correct picture of the front ring?



I believe the trigger guard has the characteristics of an IBM product. But it does have the Q-TX engraving.



Am I correct on the type£?


Does the engraving on this barrel prove that it was produced by IBM starting in July '43?


Posted By: DonFlynn
Date Posted: Sep 26 2021 at 10:42pm
Nice. Is this a fully functional Carbine?


Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Sep 26 2021 at 10:48pm
Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately, this carbine does not Unfortunately
You are not allowed to own a Unfortunately carbine in Japan.


Posted By: W5USMC
Date Posted: Sep 26 2021 at 11:35pm
Yuki, yes correct picture of the front ring, but could you pull the slide back and post another one so the complete markings show.

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USMC Retired
NRA Life Member


Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Sep 27 2021 at 12:12am
Thanks for the reply.W5USMC

Unfortunately, the receiver and rail are welded together so that they cannot slide!Cry


Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Sep 27 2021 at 8:13am
Welcome Yuki! That's a nice early IBM barrel & receiver. Too bad it had to be deactivated. Is the slide rail the only part that's welded? How easy is it to find an M1 carbine in Japan?


Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Sep 28 2021 at 2:58am
Thank!GotSnlB28

In Japan, you cannot possess a carbine unless you eliminate its function as a gun.

If you want to own a carbine in Japan, most people buy it at the following URL store.

http://www.regimentals.jp/list_gun.php?cs=3&pr=2&ty=&na=%A5%AB%A1%BC%A5%D3%A5%F3&sr=" rel="nofollow - http://www.regimentals.jp/list_gun.php?cs=3&pr=2&ty=&na=%A5%AB%A1%BC%A5%D3%A5%F3&sr=


Posted By: patrickduis
Date Posted: Oct 07 2021 at 10:43am
Nice specimen of an I.B.M., you don't see them very often (at least in the Netherlands)
In which part of Japan are you? I work at a Dutch company that represents RKC Instrument (from Tokio) and Pro-face (from Osaka) in Japan.



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.30M1: 1943+1944 IBM 3x1943-1944 Inland 1943 Underwood
1918 Springfield 1903
1918 Eddystone M1917
1911A1 Colt & Ithaca
S&W Victory
1944 Swiss K31
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member


Posted By: Matt_X
Date Posted: Oct 07 2021 at 11:39am
But it does have the Q-TX engraving.

According to the Riesch, Q-TX markings are found on trigger housings used by Quality Hardware as well as IBM.  (pages 78-9 of 8th edition).  According to Ruth, War Baby! these were assembled by Triplex Corporation of America (in Chicago) for Quality Hardware Corp.  Some were then transfered from Quality to IBM.


Posted By: NavySCPO
Date Posted: Oct 07 2021 at 3:41pm
Welcome to the forum Yuki! 

What a shame you won’t be able to shoot that Beautiful IBM, but just owning a piece of history is worth the price of admission. You can still hang it on the wall and brag!

I’ve had the opportunity to visit your country on many occasions, great memories from long ago.


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NRA Life Member

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of those who threaten it.


Posted By: GotSnlB28
Date Posted: Oct 07 2021 at 11:01pm
Yuki, thanks for the link to the M1s for sale. I noticed there's an M2 receiver on one of them! I suppose there are different ways allowed to deactivate as I see that one has a plugged barrel.


Posted By: carbinekid
Date Posted: Oct 08 2021 at 10:32am
Thanks for sharing. I’ve never seen one of those earliest IBM carbines. 


Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Oct 18 2021 at 4:18am
Thanks!patrickduis

うわー、あなたはタッチデ£スプレイとパネルを作る有名な会社です!
私は静岡に住んでいて、タミヤというプラモデル会社の彫刻家として働いています!


Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Oct 18 2021 at 4:31am
Hi Matt_X

Thanks for the interesting info.
I see. So it was transferred from Quality Hardware and is stamped QT-X. I learned a lot!



Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Oct 18 2021 at 4:35am
Tanks NavySCPO

it makes me really happy!!
I'd love to visit Georgia someday too! Because it's home to Fort Benning and Fort Tocoa! Very interesting land!


Posted By: fujita
Date Posted: Oct 18 2021 at 4:38am
Hi carbinekid 

I posted this in the hope that I could contribute to this forum in some small way.


Posted By: coffeejoejava
Date Posted: Jan 23 2022 at 10:25am
I am curious if there is any way to "Demil" the demilling on these weapons?

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USMC Ret.
Semper Fi


Posted By: patrickduis
Date Posted: Jan 24 2022 at 3:04am
Hi Fujita,
Tamiya, also a really 100% company. When I was young I built many model-airplanes of Tamiya.



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.30M1: 1943+1944 IBM 3x1943-1944 Inland 1943 Underwood
1918 Springfield 1903
1918 Eddystone M1917
1911A1 Colt & Ithaca
S&W Victory
1944 Swiss K31
NVBIW, NVWHT, NVBMB, KNSA member


Posted By: ncin1911
Date Posted: Jan 24 2022 at 8:45am
Welcome Yuki and thank you for sharing.
As others have stated, you have a scarce early IBM and should be proud to own it; regardless of the deactivation. 

Would you mind adding a photo of any markings within the sling well of stock?
Thank you




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