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Topic: Win. stock question.
Posted By: Smoky 1
Subject: Win. stock question.
Date Posted: Jul 31 2022 at 5:51pm
HI. I have a 5786xxx Winne with a stock that I have not seen before. It is heavy and tighter grain. It's marked W in well and is flat bottom. I have not seen a stock with grain like this before. Can anyone tell me why the grain is like this and are there many out there like this.
   Thanks for your help.

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Posted By: Smoky 1
Date Posted: Jul 31 2022 at 5:59pm


Posted By: floydthecat
Date Posted: Jul 31 2022 at 7:06pm
Not trying to be cute here, but the pattern in the piece of wood they used will dictate the looks. There is no special way they could prepare a blank of wood to look like that on purpose….it just turned out that way and it could have been a limb for all we know.

My 2-cents and that might be all it’s worth.


Posted By: Smokpole
Date Posted: Jul 31 2022 at 7:59pm
How it looks depends on how the blank was cut and how straight the original log was. Personally I like quarter sawn logs for the nicest grain.

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Posted By: john843
Date Posted: Jul 31 2022 at 10:13pm
I've got an oval high-wood Inland stock that has the same thing going on that yours does just aft the cartouche with what looks like two different textures of wood. Mine looks very similar in that the rearmost section of the stock behind the cartouche is a smoother grain fingering out forward. Mine has never been repaired or sanded so like floydthecat and smokepole said, it's just the luck of the draw- or maybe, the saw!

John



Posted By: Matt_X
Date Posted: Aug 01 2022 at 8:42am
If you go to the lumber yard and look through the boards you'll see a lot of flatsawn which results in grain getting exposed like you see on that stock.  Quarter sawn reduces that. 
Here's a illustration from Les Paul guitar forum showing how the cuts effect the grai figure on the surface.
http://i0.wp.com/www.westphaliawoodworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Log.jpg?fit=1200%2C899" rel="nofollow - https://i0.wp.com/www.westphaliawoodworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Log.jpg?fit=1200%2C899

and this one from Highland Woodworking which better illustrates the realities of sawing a log.
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodworking-tips-1606jun/dtew/saw-mills-and-board-descriptions.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodworking-tips-1606jun/dtew/saw-mills-and-board-descriptions.html



Posted By: Smoky 1
Date Posted: Aug 01 2022 at 8:50am
Thanks everyone for the great information. I have not seen that texture on any other carbine stock and I was sure you guys would know.


Posted By: jangle
Date Posted: Aug 01 2022 at 3:00pm
Depending on the size of the Walnut log that your blank was cut from, the smoother and darker cut is from the heartwood of the tree, and the transition to sapwood is lighter in color and will not finish as smooth, which is what you are seeing in your photos.
The sapwood can range from almost none on slower dense growth, to a few inches in faster growing trees say in an open field.


Posted By: Smoky 1
Date Posted: Aug 02 2022 at 6:37pm
Thanks to everyone. I know more now than before.



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