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Originally posted by Jond41403 Jond41403 wrote:

Thompson submachine gun? Just a WAG haha
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Originally posted by jackp1028 jackp1028 wrote:

M3 submachine gun, also used the same sling as the carbine.
Correct. The M1 carbine and the M3 submachine gun share the M1 carbine's oiler and sling. The M3A1 submachine gun has it's own oiler built into the grip and only uses the M1 carbine sling.
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M3/M3A1 submachine gun trivia.
Adaption of the M3A1 submachine included a modified stock that would also be used on existing M3 submachine guns. It wasn't only a stock. What else was the stock? 
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Barrel Wrench.
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the m3 platform had one more thing tied with the M1 Carbine. What was it?
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Originally posted by arthur arthur wrote:

Barrel Wrench.
Correct, flats were milled on the barrel nut, so with the stock removed, squeezing the stock legs against the barrel nut flats gave the leverage to remove the barrel nut which secures the barrel in place. What two other uses are there for the M3/M3A1 stock?
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Originally posted by Louis Losi Louis Losi wrote:

M3/M3A1 submachine gun trivia.
Adaption of the M3A1 submachine included a modified stock that would also be used on existing M3 submachine guns. It wasn't only a stock. What else was the stock? 
Answer to trivia question. In addition to being a butt stock are three other uses. The first use, removing the barrel nut, was previously answered. Te second use is a cleaning rod, the ends of the stock are internally threaded to accomodate a bore cleaning brush. The third use is a magazine loader. Two pictures demonstrate barrel removal and magazine loading.
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I keep seeing the M1 Garand butt plate short screw is the same as the M1 carbine's butt plate screw. Not having any luck with dwg numbers.
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Originally posted by sling00 sling00 wrote:

I keep seeing the M1 Garand butt plate short screw is the same as the M1 carbine's butt plate screw. Not having any luck with dwg numbers.


It's in Niclolaus's book of diagrams.
part number / Drawing number 6147873  on paper size B.  Rock Island Arsenal
In the revision box F 26 Aug 60
G Redrawn and Revised 27 Nov 63
...

There is a list of Applications on the lower left including M79 launcher, M14E2, Shotgun 12 ga.
 
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REVOLVER TRIVIA
If you can identify this revolver, you may know why it has an oversize trigger guard.
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Model 1878 Frontier Colt, oversized trigger guard to accommodate large double action trigger and trigger system.
 
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AKA the M1902 Philippine.
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Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

Model 1878 Frontier Colt, oversized trigger guard to accommodate large double action trigger and trigger system.
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Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

AKA the M1902 Philippine.
Correct, it is the Colt Model 1902 revolver known as the Philipine and also the Alaskan model. But wh does it hve an oversize trigger guard?
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Originally posted by Louis Losi Louis Losi wrote:

Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

Model 1878 Frontier Colt, oversized trigger guard to accommodate large double action trigger and trigger system.
 Incorrect answer. 

Actually, hunterman is correct also. 
In 1902, 4,600 Model 1878 revolvers were produced for a U.S. Army contract. These revolvers had 6-inch barrels, hard rubber grips, and were chambered for the .45 Colt round. They had strengthened mainsprings and longer triggers to give the user more leverage, resulting in larger trigger guards. Many people have incorrectly assumed that this was to allow the revolver to be operated while wearing gloves, so "Alaskan Model" is a misnomer. These revolvers are unofficially designated the Model 1902 (M1902).
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Originally posted by W5USMC W5USMC wrote:

Originally posted by Louis Losi Louis Losi wrote:

Originally posted by hunterman hunterman wrote:

Model 1878 Frontier Colt, oversized trigger guard to accommodate large double action trigger and trigger system.
 Incorrect answer. 

Actually, hunterman is correct also. 
In 1902, 4,600 Model 1878 revolvers were produced for a U.S. Army contract. These revolvers had 6-inch barrels, hard rubber grips, and were chambered for the .45 Colt round. They had strengthened mainsprings and longer triggers to give the user more leverage, resulting in larger trigger guards. Many people have incorrectly assumed that this was to allow the revolver to be operated while wearing gloves, so "Alaskan Model" is a misnomer. These revolvers are unofficially designated the Model 1902 (M1902).
I will answer the trivia question because neither of the responses mentions the reason for the oversize trigger guard. First, it is the Model 1902, not Model 1878, which is stamped 1902 on the lower right side of the frame above the rear of the trigger guard. The Colt Model 1878 double action revolver was available chambered for the .45 Colt cartridge. The Colt Model 1902 double action revolver was chambered for the .45 Colt cartridge. So, if the Colt Model 1878 double action revolver and the Colt Model 1902 double action revolver were both chambered for the .45 Colt cartridge, why would there be an oversize trigger guard on the Colt Model 1902 double action revolver? The answer is military cartridges use a harder primer than commercial cartridges. The Colt Model 1878 double action revolver was unreliable firing the military .45 Colt cartridges with hard primers. The solution was a stronger main spring to overcome this problem and the oversize trigger guard and trigger gave the leverage to overcome the strength of the stronger main spring. So, the answer to the question why does the Colt Model 1902 double action revolver have an oversize trigger guard is "hard military primers".
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M1 CARBINE TRIVIA
What 1943 event resulted in the M1 carbine being declared Substitute Standard?
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I guess because the M3 subgun was cheaper to make, that it moved up in desirability for purchase v the M1 carbine.  It passed accuracy tests to 100 yards.  

How about two guesses?  Maybe the M2 version of the carbine was deemed to be the wave of the future?
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Originally posted by Quietus Quietus wrote:

I guess because the M3 subgun was cheaper to make, that it moved up in desirability for purchase v the M1 carbine.  It passed accuracy tests to 100 yards.  

How about two guesses?  Maybe the M2 version of the carbine was deemed to be the wave of the future?
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Originally posted by Louis Losi Louis Losi wrote:

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What does the M1 carbine and another weapon have in common? Identifying the weapon will help to answer the trivia question.
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Does not look like this question was answered to satisfaction…or maybe it was…can’t tell.  Regardless…here is an interesting firearm that I only learned about by researching oilers a few years ago.

The M2 Hyde-Inland/Marlin.  It had a similar oiler to the M1 Carbine, except for the oiler cap that had a locking mechanism lug pattern to hold it in a recessed hole in the butt plate. It was also similar in that it involved both Inland and Marlin, both primary contractor and subcontractor for M1 Carbines. Additionally, had a similar front band and hand guard configuration with the same retaining spring design.

If you look at the link below, you see a lot of M1 carbine design similarities.




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