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Wartime replacement stock IR made by Robert Irwin Co.
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We have several winners. Actually Dan was the first winner. The single note of a tune, really?

Here's the last picture.
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Yes, Painter, there is a patch. I'm surprised that it stops just short of the oiler slot. Otherwise I would not have noticed it. Also note the ordnance bomb in the oiler slot. Have you ever seen that before?
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So do all IR stocks look like this on does around the recoil plate? What else in the other pics were indicators that it was an Irwin stock?
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Seen a Lumb with the same Bomb in the same location... In the oiler slot.
Didn't see it until it was stripped to remove a Korean paint job.
At first, I thought it was a milling mark.
I believe I still have a picture of it.... currently held for ransom by Photobucket.

Nice looking stock and interesting...... just the way I like em.

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You can from time to time see a gap in the recoil plate on other stocks too, although it's most likely not by design. Think sanding, shrinkage, and even human error of some kind or another. I have also read that cast recoil plates can have much the same gap issue.
Keep in mind that the chin area (underneath) of an Irwin stock has a pretty quick transition to the bottom part compared to other stocks. All I say is that someone tried, I think, to picture that...
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Ordnance drawings specify a .25" radius in the corners to match the radius of the recoil plate. It looks like Irwin used a .125" radius instead. I guess it was approved by Army Ordnance. They stamped it twice!

This stock is a Type 3 oval cut, low wood with a short barrel channel. There is no M2 selector cutout.

Not all Irwin stocks have this feature, but all that have this feature are Irwin stocks. A search of images on the internet will show examples of RSG and IP stocks with this feature as well as this featured wartime replacement stock. A great place to look for this is in the CMP Auction web site on the completed auctions section. There are literally hundreds of images of relatively unmessed with carbines.

Other more subtle features include the more angular forend (See picture posted earlier) and the squarish forend cross section, like Winchester.
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Wow, Have not observed the OB in oiler cut! Everyone check theirs!
 
I finally have some time to take pictures but it seems another has popped up, but an RSG
 
 
Not as squared off but still a gap.
 
Previous to this thread I had posted the following
Originally posted by New2brass New2brass wrote:

I have seen washers under the recoil plate, JB weld or bedding of the recoil plate. I do not think the recoil plate was designed to be so tight into the wood, rather I think it was meant to be lifted and bolt as an adjustment. If you look at a RSG stock you will see a great many left the factory with a decent gap around the recoil plate area. I do not think ordnance would have accepted these if there was an issue.
 
Funny that the washer thing just popped up, Will address that later.
 
 
And I officially take myself out of the running as being first with naming it in one note, This was an excellent quiz and I hope many have learned from it!
 
Points to Jack and Charlie.
 
Submit your own in this section or post your ideas here
 
 
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Just in case anyone doubts the wider cut on RSG VS IR (same mfg)
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@Hunterman, although the stock originally pictured in this thread was a Robert W. Irwin stock, you were also correct in that Milton Bradley stocks often have a similar shape around the recoil plate. New2brass sent me this picture recently. You should get at least half credit on this quiz. Here's the pic of a Milton Bradley stock marked BR-B.
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